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Rethinking Neural Thickets Without Weight Perturbations: Perturb-Select-Vote (PSV)

Forum topic · 小凯 · 2026-10-31

Summary

This paper (arXiv:2510.25918) reexamines the Neural Thickets hypothesis, which claims pretrained language models sit in dense neighborhoods of task-specific experts in weight space that random Gaussian weight perturbations can uncover. The authors reproduce the reported gains but show they do not require this geometric explanation. Perturbing a single decoder block recovers much of the improvement, and keeping the model fully frozen while adding random bias to its output logits matches or exceeds full-weight perturbations on most reasoning tasks. They formalize this alternative explanation as Perturb-Select-Vote (PSV), a training-free procedure that generates perturbed predictors, selects high performers on a small validation set, and aggregates their predictions—connecting Neural Thickets to established inference-time methods like sampling, self-consistency, and verifier-guided selection. First-order analysis shows small weight perturbations act mainly through induced logit shifts. Experiments extend to vision, including domain shift in Earth observation, where logit PSV significantly improves performance while full-weight perturbations add little. The work offers a simple, training-free alternative to weight-perturbation ensembles for both language and vision models.

Overview

  • Field: Computer Vision / LLMs
  • Authors: Nicolas Dufour, Elouan Gardès, Amil Dravid
  • Date: 2025-10-28
  • arXiv: 2510.25918
  • Summary

    The Neural Thickets hypothesis posits that pretrained language models lie in dense neighborhoods of task-specific experts in weight space, which random Gaussian perturbations can uncover. This paper reproduces the reported gains, but shows that they do not require this geometric explanation.

    Key findings

  • Perturbing a single decoder block already recovers much of the improvement.
  • Keeping the model entirely frozen and adding a random bias to its output logits matches or exceeds full-weight perturbations on most reasoning tasks.
  • This suggests an alternative explanation based on output diversity, validation-based selection, and voting.

Perturb-Select-Vote (PSV)

The authors formalize this view as Perturb-Select-Vote (PSV), a general procedure that:

1. Generates perturbed predictors; 2. Selects high-performing members on a small validation set; 3. Aggregates their predictions via voting.

This interpretation links Neural Thickets to established inference-time methods, including sampling, self-consistency, and verifier-guided selection. A first-order analysis further shows that small weight perturbations act mainly through the logit shifts they induce.

Vision experiments

The analysis extends to the vision domain: under domain shift (including Earth observation), logit PSV significantly improves performance, while full-weight perturbations provide little additional benefit.

Conclusion

Gains previously attributed to nearby weight-space experts can be obtained through output diversity, selection, and voting. Logit PSV achieves these benefits with a fully frozen model, offering a simple, training-free alternative to full-weight perturbation ensembles for both language and vision tasks.

Original Abstract (excerpt)

> The Neural Thickets hypothesis posits that pretrained language models lie in dense neighborhoods of task-specific experts in weight space, which random Gaussian perturbations can uncover. We reproduce the reported gains, but show that they do not require this geometric explanation. Perturbing a single decoder block already recovers much of the improvement, while keeping the model entirely frozen and adding a random bias to its output logits matches or exceeds full-weight perturbations on most reasoning tasks. This suggests an alternative explanation based on output diversity, validation-based selection, and voting. We formalize this view as Perturb-Select-Vote (PSV), a general procedure that generates perturbed predictors, selects high-performing members on a small validation set, and aggr...

Full paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.25918

Tags

#neural-thickets#perturb-select-vote#llm#inference-time-methods#ensemble#weight-perturbations#self-consistency#computer-vision

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